Mackey & Judd

SPECIAL: A powerful conversation with Ryan Saunders about losing a parent and dealing with grief

In this special episode of Mackey & Judd w/ Ramie, Phil Mackey sits down for a powerful conversation with Minnesota Timberwolves coach Ryan Saunders about losing a parent and dealing with grief. Ryan and Phil share a common bond — they both lost a parent (Flip Saunders, in Ryan’s case) to blood cancer and a fairly young age, and they dive into a deep discussion about it on this podcast.

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